Paul Keller’s interview (creative commons)
Sylvain met Paul Keller who is in charge of Creative Commons Holland. He took the liberty of asking him about the pilot project he is currently managing with the collecting society Burma/Sterma.
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October 3rd, 2007 at 6:16 am
Is there any chance this interview will be posted in a format other than flash? With gnash coming along, we Free Software users almost have access to flash stuff but regular .avi or mp4 files (without DRM) are much easier…
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:38 pm
Dear Kris Bergstrom,
Unfortunately the videos we post won’t be available in flash format.
I do understand your frustration and I am really sorry.
Kindest regards,
Charlotte
October 4th, 2007 at 10:37 am
I can’t believe this is actually happening *here*, in the Netherlands! Very cool.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:38 pm
If Buma/Stemra treat a commercial use for a musical work licensed with a creative commons license the same way that they treat a work not licensed with a creative commons license, how does that effect non-profit organizations that want to use audio works licensed with a creative commons license in holland or outside ?
Do Buma/Stemra see any difference between a commercial use of a work licensed with a creative commons license and one that is not ? If the collection society did, this would encourage non-profit organizations to use works licensed with a creative commons license. This in turn would decrease the amount of revenue that is collected. Consider how the board works within these organizations.
In Australia: for every 500 dollars that an artist or publisher collects the artist or publisher gets an extra vote. The same system applies to all collection societies, as far as i understand. The board members of these organizations create conditions in favor of the shareholders they represent. Consider this when looking at the Buma/Stemra project.
November 14th, 2007 at 9:54 am
Recently i called up Buma/Stemra (Dutch collection society) to find out more information about the pilot project. You can get more information on the Buma/Stemra Pilot project here. http://www.cyberlaw.se/kalle/2007/08/23/creative-commons-och-bumastemra/
What I understood after the conversation was this: Its as difficult to change what a commercial use is for art licensed with creative commons license (for members of rights organizations) as it is to create a license back situation for all artist members. From what i understand a license back situation would allow the artists to deal with their rights as they choose, yet still participate in the collecting system where the artist wanted to. The reason why Buma/Stemra told me that they would not create a license back situation, is that it would cost its members to much and there would be nothing to collect if they did this anyway.
Buma/Stemra see basically no difference between what a commercial use is for art licensed with a NC CC license and art not licensed with one ( for members that participate in the pilot ). Buma/Stemra see almost everything as a commercial use. If in the future rights organization adopt the NC CC license to their system, would this give the rights organizations the ability to charge all non-profit spaces/media for the use of music works licensed with NC CC licenses ?
A way around this problem might be to add a feature to the license to let the user of the license know that this music art was with a collection society, by doing this creating a new license and less confusion. In time the rights organizations of each country might work towards a NC use that resembles the CC NC license.